If your grief is new or if it’s been with you for years, this episode is for you.
For the first time publicly, we open up about the losses that changed everything: the death of Joy’s fiancé, the unraveling of a relationship Matt believed would last, and the silent years we both spent trying to escape pain, magical thinking, and spiritual bypassing.
This isn’t a step-by-step guide to healing.
It’s the raw, real truth of what grief looks like when you live it and what becomes possible when you finally stop running.
In this episode, we share:
🌱 The exact moment grief began and how we each responded
🌱 Why we believed we could “earn” a different outcome
🌱 What it looks like to grieve someone still alive
🌱 Why our spiritual tools stopped working
🌱 What finally helped us heal, reclaim ourselves, and return to love
If you’re in a season of loss or wondered if you’ll ever feel whole again… you’re not alone.
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