456 | Alexander Ward: Biden's Internationalists, Trump's Nationalists, and the Fight for the Future of U.S. Foreign Policy

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Alexander Ward, Politico reporter and author of The Internationalists: The Fight to Restore American Foreign Policy After Trump, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Alexander discuss the Biden foreign policy team and agenda's origins in the wake of Trump's surprise 2016 election, whether foreign policy does (or doesn't) determine election outcomes, where the Biden foreign policy builds upon and distances itself from Trump's, the conflicts, events, and regions that shaped 2021-2024: China, Kabul, Ukraine, and why the Biden team's orientation is best described as "internationalist" versus Trump's "nationalists."