

Trump’s Deranged “Spa” Defense
Jul 29, 2025
The hosts dive into Donald Trump's bizarre comments about his connections to Jeffrey Epstein, specifically his remarks regarding Virginia Giuffre. They unpack the troubling dynamics of Giuffre's relationship with Epstein and Trump's dismissive attitudes. The discussion also touches on Ghislaine Maxwell's controversial appeal and her attempts to reshape her legacy amid public backlash. Political implications of Maxwell's potential testimony are examined, revealing the complicated narratives surrounding these figures.
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Trump's Property Framing of Giuffre
- Trump described Virginia Giuffre as someone Epstein "stole" from his Mar-a-Lago spa staff.
- He framed it as a business grievance, showing a detached, property-like view of her.
Virginia Giuffre's Tragic Journey
- Virginia Giuffre's tragic story began at Mar-a-Lago spa where Epstein recruited her.
- She became a key witness against Epstein after escaping his abuse and later died, fueling further controversy.
Inconsistent Timeline on Epstein Rift
- The timeline Trump presented about his falling out with Epstein due to staffing disputes is inconsistent.
- He praised Epstein years after Giuffre was recruited, contradicting his stated reasons for severing ties.