
 Julian Dorey Podcast
 Julian Dorey Podcast #339 - Anti-Spy Phone CEO Responds to Israel Link Allegations & Exposes Apple’s Cult | Joe Weil
 Sep 24, 2025 
 Joe Weil, CEO of Unplugged and former Apple strategist, dives into the shocking realities of phone addiction and ad overload, revealing how Apple and Google dominate the tech landscape. He shares his personal journey through rehab and spiritual rebirth, shedding light on childhood trauma and the power of faith. Joe exposes pervasive tracking issues, the risks of third-party data, and how Unplugged's UP Phone addresses these challenges with a privacy-first approach. He also discusses the ethical dilemmas in tech, including censorship and the implications for civil liberties. 
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Smartphones Reshaped Attention Economy
- Smartphones transformed daily attention: average screen time rose from ~3.5 hours (2010) to 7+ hours for younger users. People now see tens of thousands of ads daily, fundamentally reshaping decision-making and culture.
Two Platforms Concentrate Influence
- The internet's apparent diversity funnels through two dominant OS platforms (Apple, Google) that share symbiotic incentives. That concentration amplifies control over speech, defaults, and ad-driven behaviors.
Design Nudges To Reduce Phone Addiction
- Use design to nudge healthier phone habits like showing 'Time Away' instead of screen time. Choose products that don't monetize your attention to reduce compulsive usage.



