PT456 – Alexander Beiner – Moloch, Kairos, Extended-State DMT, and the Spider Queen
Oct 31, 2023
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David interviews Alexander Beiner, the Executive Director of Breaking Convention, who shares his personal story of his first psychedelic experience. They discuss the concepts of Moloch and Kairos, the corporatization of psychedelics, and the power of dialectic inquiry. Beiner also talks about his involvement in the extended-state DMT study and the transformative potential of psychedelics in breaking free from societal constraints.
Extended-state DMT trials explore the potential for longer and deeper psychedelic experiences.
Participants in the DMT trial were motivated by curiosity, self-discovery, and contribution to scientific research.
Encounters during the DMT experience reveal a teaching presence and the symbolic significance of the Spider Queen entity.
Deep dives
The Imperial College DMT Trial
Imperial College conducted a trial exploring the effects of intravenous DMT on healthy volunteers. The trial, called DMT Extended State, aimed to extend the duration of the DMT experience. Being aware of the intense and profound nature of the DMT experience, the volunteers participated in this pioneering study. The experience of vaporized DMT typically lasts around 10 to 15 minutes, but the intravenous administration allowed for a lengthened and potentially deeper experience. The objective was to explore the effects of DMT on consciousness and gain further insights into its mechanisms of action.
Personal Motivation for Participating
The specific reasons behind the participants' willingness to participate in the trial varied. However, given the unique and intense nature of the DMT experience, personal curiosity, a desire for self-discovery, and an interest in exploring altered states of consciousness were likely common motivations. The opportunity to contribute to scientific research and the potential for expanding understanding of consciousness and psychedelic effects may have also played a role.
Preparation and Study Protocols
Prior to participating in the DMT trial, participants likely underwent a thorough screening process to ensure their suitability for the study. They would have been provided with information about the procedure, potential risks, and any necessary precautions. The study protocols and safety measures would have been implemented, and volunteers would have received appropriate support and monitoring during the administration of intravenous DMT.
Insights and Outcomes
As the trial was still ongoing at the time of writing, specific insights and outcomes from the DMT Extended State study were yet to be published. However, the aim of the study was to gain a deeper understanding of the effects of DMT on consciousness and potentially shed light on the mechanisms behind the profound and transformative experiences reported by individuals who have used DMT. Results from the trial could contribute to the growing body of knowledge surrounding psychedelics and their potential applications in research and therapy.
Encountering the Teaching Presence in DMT Experiences
During the DMT trial, the speaker describes encountering a teaching presence that guided and communicated with them throughout the dosing. This presence felt like a higher wisdom and had a deeper perspective on the self. The speaker acknowledges that it felt both like them and not them, expressing a sense of unity and interconnectedness. They also discuss the prophetic nature of the DMT experience, similar to encounters with sacred entities or divine beings.
Meeting the Spider Queen in DMT Space
In one of the DMT dosing experiences, the speaker encounters the Spider Queen, a large, seductive entity in the form of a spidery cocoon. Initially cautious and intrigued, the speaker resists merging with the entity. However, they are ultimately ensnared in the Spider Queen's web. The encounter brings forth deep, dark images and an exploration of intimacy and trust. The Spider Queen represents a complex interplay between being an independent entity and a part of the speaker's own psyche, challenging the speaker's perspective on shadow work and unity consciousness.
In this episode, David interviews Alexander Beiner: an Executive Director of Breaking Convention; writer of The Bigger Picture substack; and author of The Bigger Picture: How Psychedelics Can Help Us Make Sense of the World.
He tells his personal story and how his first psychedelic experience felt like a homecoming; discusses his Rebel Wisdom media platform, where, through interviews, he tried to make sense of social upheavals and conflicts through a more flexible, psychedelic way of thinking; and digs deep into the Greek concepts of Moloch and Kairos: how Moloch represents the winner-take-all, race to the bottom, sacrifice-your-values-to-appease-the-system game playing we all get stuck in, and Kairos represents the openness that comes from psychedelics – the transitional, seize-the-moment opportunities we need to take advantage of. And he discusses much more: the power of dialectic inquiry; the corporatization of psychedelics and how we’re really in a psychedelic enlightenment; how the medicalization of psychedelics is like a Trojan horse; and the concept of technology (and specifically the internet) mirroring the switching between realms that we think is so rare in psychedelics – aren’t we doing that every time we look at our phones?
Beiner was recently part of Imperial College London’s initial trials on intravenous, extended-state DMT, testing correct dosages and speeds for the pump. He describes the details of the study, how he thought they were messing with him at first, and what he saw in his experiences: an outer space-like world of gigantic planet-like entities, and how a massive Spider Queen entity taught him about intimacy and how our metaphysical and personal worlds aren’t separate at all. Click here to head to the show notes page.
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