The Permanent Things

Modernity and Secularization with Alan Noble

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Jan 27, 2020
Alan Noble, editor of Christ and Pop Culture and author of Disruptive Witness, dives deep into modernity and secularization. He discusses the shift from external sources of meaning to individual interpretations and contrasts existential uncertainty in Hamlet with spiritual clarity in Dante. Noble explains how technology fosters an immanent worldview, complicating Christian witness. He emphasizes the value of art in revealing a longing for transcendence and critiques churches prioritizing efficiency over human dignity.
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Modernity As An Interior Turn

  • Modernity shifts authority from external, cosmic orders to interior, individual sources of meaning.
  • That inward move creates individualism and questions traditional claims about truth, beauty, and the good.
ANECDOTE

Dante Versus Modern Identity

  • Alan contrasts Dante's 'spiritual crisis' with modern identity crises to show different worldviews.
  • Dante knew the cosmos and needed ordering, while modern people lack an imposed external framework.
INSIGHT

Secularization Enables Modernity

  • You cannot have modernity without some form of secularization because belief in a shared transcendence must be undermined for meaning to move inward.
  • Modernity includes more changes than secularization, but secularization is a necessary condition.
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