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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

When Jonah Met Ezra

Jan 27, 2024
Jonah recounts his debate with Ezra Klein and reflects on conservative intellectual history. They discuss the dysfunction of Congress and the UN's treatment of Israel. They also explore the sources of happiness and the dangers of political reliance. The speakers reflect on trade-offs in life and the impact of technology on tradition. They discuss adversarial science, concerns about quoting Carl Schmidt, and the need for conservatives to reject old traditions and create a new future.
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Quick takeaways

  • Liberalism's invisible hand system fails to deliver on its promises and is plagued by problems such as regulatory capture, self-serving politicians, and corrupt institutions.
  • The hosts' denial of empirical evidence supporting liberal democratic capitalism overlooks its positive outcomes and advancements, painting an incomplete and biased picture of its impact on societies.

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The Limits of Liberalism

The podcast episode explores the flaws and limitations of liberal democratic capitalism. The hosts argue that liberalism, as an invisible hand system, fails to deliver on its promises and is plagued by problems such as regulatory capture, self-serving politicians, and corrupt institutions. They dismiss the notion that liberal theory is grounded in empirical evidence, claiming that it relies on blind faith. Additionally, they suggest that liberalism's adversarial systems, like checks and balances and the marketplace of ideas, lack sufficient evidence of their effectiveness. The hosts propose that without an external enforcer, liberalism cannot rectify its flaws, leading to public choice problems and other issues. However, they fail to present a solid alternative to liberalism or address the benefits that liberalism has brought throughout history.

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