Against the Rules with Michael Lewis Baby Judge School
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May 7, 2019 
Jeremy Fogel, a former federal judge, dives into the compelling world of judicial training and reform. He discusses the importance of emotional intelligence for judges, highlighting initiatives like 'Baby Judge School.' The conversation explores the delicate balance between a judge's humanity and the need for impartiality. Fogel shares insights from research on fairness in both humans and animals, connecting emotional dynamics in the courtroom to public perceptions of justice. His advocacy for transparency in the judiciary sheds light on the pressures judges face today.
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Emotions Worth Studying
- Scientists now study emotions in people and animals, finding they drive behavior.
- Primatologist Franz de Waal's work reveals animals, like monkeys, possess a sense of fairness.
Monkey Fairness Experiment
- In de Waal's experiment, monkeys given cucumbers became upset after seeing others receive grapes for the same task.
- This highlights the monkeys' sense of fairness and the link between transparency and unfairness.
Uzbekistan's Lack of Judicial Independence
- Musa Sever, having witnessed Yugoslavia's collapse, valued the rule of law and worked in Uzbekistan's prisons.
- Uzbekistan lacked independent judges, leading to a climate of fear and controlled by prosecutors.