Wim Carton and Andreas Malm are the co-authors of the superb, devastating new book Overshoot: How the World Surrendered to Climate Breakdown. Here’s a quote to give you a sense of its argument:

"And when the third decade of the millennium dawned, the relationship remained firmly in place: the warmer the globe became, the more fossil fuels were poured on the fire. The higher the temperatures, the larger the emissions. The closer the Earth came to being engulfed in flames — literally and figuratively — the harder companies worked to get oil and gas and coal out of the ground and ferry them off to combustion."

What is the political philosophy that landed us here? Overshoot.

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Well, this episode could not be better timed—and I mean that in the worst imaginable way. On Monday, Donald Trump announced that the U.S. is in the midst of an "energy crisis" and signaled that it was time for us to “drill baby, drill.” This is an unimaginably stupid decision that will damn millions of people and other earthlings to unnecessary death or suffering. And proves out what Andreas and Wim argue in their superb, devastating new book,

Wim Carton is Associate Professor of Sustainability Science at Lund University, Sweden. He's the author of over 20 academic articles and book chapters on climate politics. His work has appeared in top journals such as Nature Climate Change, WIRES Climate Change and Antipode.

Andreas Malm teaches human ecology at Lund University, Sweden. He is the author of, among other books, Fossil Capital: The Rise of Steam Power and the Roots of Global Warming and How to Blow Up a Pipeline: Learning to Fight in a World on Fire.

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