Guests: John J. Miller, Troy Senik, & Mardi Billman

Host Scot Bertram talks with John J. Miller, Director of the Dow Journalism Program at Hillsdale College, about various plans to force tech companies to pay for online news. Troy Senik, a former Presidential speechwriter, takes us inside his recent book A Man of Iron: The Turbulent Life and Improbable Presidency of Grover Cleveland. And Mardi Billman, Assistant Professor of Chemistry at Hillsdale, returns for an installment in her "Drama in Scientific Discovery" series to tell us about the atom.

John J. Miller at 00:55
Troy Senik at 11:45
Mardi Billman at 32:45

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