Call Me Back - with Dan Senor Defining Victory - with Micah Goodman
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Aug 11, 2025 Micah Goodman, a research fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute and co-host of the Israeli podcast Mifleget Hamachshavot, joins the discussion on Israel's complex military strategies in Gaza. He dives into the implications of a potential military takeover of Gaza City and the ongoing geopolitical tensions with Iran. The conversation highlights the delicate balance of Israel's international reputation, exploring the dichotomy of fear and love in perceptions of the country's actions. Goodman also discusses the nuances in U.S.-Israel relations amid shifting political landscapes.
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Iran's Capabilities Fell, Will To Attack Rose
- Micah Goodman: Israel degraded Iranian capabilities during the 12-day campaign.
- Despite losses in capability, Iran's will to injure Israel strengthened and fuels ongoing risk.
Fear In The Middle East Vs Love In The West
- Micah Goodman: Israelis built fear among Middle Eastern adversaries with forceful deterrence.
- That strategy eroded Israel's standing in the West and created a painful reputational trade-off.
U.S.-Israel Campaign Had Broad Political Backing
- Dan Senor and Micah Goodman: America's strike against Iran reflected broad mainstream GOP and Israeli support, not just fringe voices.
- U.S.-Israeli cooperation shaped momentum for regional shifts that enable later normalization efforts.