Epidemiologist Abby Cartus returns for a wide ranging conversation on the current state of the school closing/reopening debate and the ongoing vilification of teachers unions and student walkouts. Pre-orders are now live for Bea and Artie's book! Pre-order HEALTH COMMUNISM here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/712391/health-communism-by-beatrice-adler-bolton-and-artie-vierkant/ As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod new Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch join our Discord here: discord.com/invite/3KjKbB2