Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast 277. Trump and Climate Populism with Ben Rhodes
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Dec 12, 2024 
Ben Rhodes, former Deputy National Security Advisor under Obama and a keen political analyst, joins the conversation to tackle the pressing issue of climate populism. He argues for a fresh strategy to harness populist sentiments for climate action, aiming to shift the focus onto the oil and gas industry's control over negotiations. The discussion also delves into the contrasting political styles of Trump and Harris, the impact of U.S. policy shifts on global climate cooperation, and the importance of engaging diverse voices in the climate movement.
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Climate Populism
- Frame climate action as a fight against powerful interests.
- Target the fossil fuel industry's influence on politics and energy policy.
Domestic Politics
- Critiques of the fossil fuel industry at international climate summits aren't effective alone.
- These arguments need to be made within individual countries' political systems.
Trump and Fossil Fuels
- Trump reportedly promised fossil fuel executives favors in exchange for campaign donations.
- This blatant example of oligarchy was barely discussed, highlighting a missed political opportunity.