Return guest joins host to discuss the state of conferences today, why they matter, and how is our favorite of the bunch. We also discuss how much we adore Troy Lightfoot, and why his voice was built for radio. Li and Murman then discuss at the conference. Since he created the space for Agile Alliance, Li speaks to the history, why it's extremely underrated in value, and why you should spend some time with the team in Orlando this year. If you enjoyed this episode, please give us a review, a rating, or leave comments on iTunes, Stitcher or your podcasting platform of choice. It really helps others find us.  Much thanks to the artist  from  who provided us our outro music free-of-charge!  If you like what you heard,     to find more music you might enjoy! If you’d like to join the discussion and share your stories,  please jump into the fray at our  We at the Agile Uprising are committed to being totally free.  However, if you’d like to contribute and help us defray hosting and production costs we do have a .  Who knows, you might even get some surprises in the mail!