Why Doesn't God Make Himself Obvious? with Gavin Ortlund
Jan 30, 2024
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Gavin Ortlund, an expert on divine transcendence and the incarnation, explores why God doesn't make Himself obvious. They discuss misplaced expectations, the limitations of human understanding, and the veiled nature of God's revelation through Jesus. They also address the unfairness objection and emphasize the importance of missions and seeking God.
A fully unmitigated revelation of God may not necessarily be beneficial for us, as it may not align with the nature of our world and the process of becoming.
Expecting God to conform to our own intuitions and preferences can hinder our understanding of His transcendence and limit our faith in Him.
Deep dives
The Issue of Divine Hiddenness
The podcast explores the question of why God doesn't make Himself more obvious in order to eliminate doubts and uncertainties about His existence. It suggests that this question is becoming more prominent in today's culture, where many individuals struggle with intellectual anxiety and seek clear evidence. It presents the idea that a fully unmitigated revelation of God may not necessarily be beneficial for us, considering the nature of our world and the process of becoming. The podcast references various Christian thinkers, like Blaise Pascal, who highlight that God may have reasons for not providing a complete and unambiguous revelation of Himself.
The Importance of Divine Transcendence
The podcast discusses the concept of divine transcendence, emphasizing that God is high and beyond human comprehension. It suggests that the problem of divine hiddenness can stem from expecting God to conform to our own intuitions and preferences. It challenges the assumption that a more overtly miraculous or unambiguous revelation would necessarily lead to a deeper understanding of God or a stronger faith. The podcast encourages humility and open-mindedness in considering alternative ways through which God reveals Himself, highlighting that the Christian belief in the incarnation of Jesus provides a profound and mysterious revelation of God's character.
The Role of Human Testimony and Conscience
The podcast recognizes that the knowledge of God is not solely spread through human testimony, but also through conscience and creation. It emphasizes that every individual has a conscience and the ability to recognize the existence of good and evil, even without explicit knowledge of the doctrine of the Trinity. It suggests that divine revelation through evangelism and missions is not about introducing a completely new conversation between individuals and God, but rather interrupting and engaging with the ongoing dialogue in their hearts. The podcast underscores the importance of understanding the role of conscience in discussions of divine hiddenness.
Faith, Surrender, and Seeking God
The podcast encourages individuals to approach questions of divine hiddenness with humility, faith, and active seeking. It acknowledges the struggle and uncertainty that many people experience in their spiritual journey, but also emphasizes the promises in Holy Scripture that if one seeks God with sincerity, they will find Him. It highlights the importance of sincere faith and the existential dimension of committing to a relationship with God, drawing parallels to falling in love and the need for humility in accepting God's ways of revealing Himself.
Rebecca McLaughlin is joined by Gavin Ortlund to answer the question; why doesn't God make Himself more obvious?Questions Covered in This Episode:
Why doesn't God make Himself more obvious?
What is divine transcendence?
How does the incarnation affect this conversation?
How is Jesus the image of the invisible God?
Why would God use sinful humans to reveal Himself to others instead of something more obvious?
What does the Bible say about sin and why is it so offensive?
What about the people who have never had the opportunity to hear about Jesus?
How should I pray?
Helpful Definitions:
Divine Transcendence: God is high and lofty and beyond our ability to fully understand. We shouldn’t expect that we will fully understand everything about God based on our moment-by-moment intuitions.
Incarnation: God becoming a man in Christ.
Guest Bio:Dr. Gavin Ortlund is a pastor, author, speaker, and apologist for the Christian faith. He runs the YouTube channel Truth Unites, which seeks to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin has a Ph.D. from Fuller Theological Seminary in historical theology, and an M.Div from Covenant Theological Seminary. He is the author of eight books as well as numerous academic and popular articles. Gavin is a fellow of The Keller Center for Cultural Apologetics, a fellow of The Center for Baptist Renewal, a fellow of Credo, a member of St. Basil Fellowship of The Center for Pastor Theologians, and a Visiting Scholar at Reasons to Believe.Resources Mentioned:
Colossians 1, Romans 10:15, Jeremiah 29:13, Matthew 7:7