[Replay] How "total work" took over the world - Andrew Taggart
Nov 6, 2023
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Andrew Taggart, a practical philosopher, discusses the concept of 'total work' and explores different modes of making a living. He encourages individuals to dis-identify with their worker identity, question the 'good life,' and engage in philosophical inquiry. The podcast also delves into the connections between making a living and relationships, settlement versus nomadism, and the importance of cultivating a philosophical mindset in our modern society.
Disidentifying from our worker identities allows us to explore deeper aspects of our lives beyond our job titles or professions.
Reflecting on what truly matters and pursuing a good life is essential, prioritizing fulfillment over mere survival or material success.
Technology's impact on society warrants deeper philosophical reflections and ethical discussions among tech industry leaders.
Deep dives
Questioning the Relationship Between Work and the Good Life
This podcast episode features a conversation with practical philosopher Andrew Taggart, who challenges the modern conception of work and its impact on our quest for a good life. Taggart discusses how our current understanding of work undermines our ability to lead a meaningful life. He emphasizes the distinction between sustaining life and living an excellent life, urging listeners to reflect on what truly matters and what constitutes a good life. Taggart also explores the intrusion of work into various aspects of our lives and the need to disidentify from our worker identities. He suggests practices like disidentification, introspection, and cultivating diverse interests as ways to move away from total work and find greater fulfillment.
The Importance of Disidentifying from Work
Taggart highlights the significance of disidentifying from our worker identities and questioning the assumption that our lives revolve solely around work. He encourages listeners to disengage from the notion that work defines their entire existence, enabling them to explore deeper aspects of their lives beyond their job titles or professions. By disidentifying from work, individuals open themselves up to new possibilities and a broader sense of self.
Exploring the Questions of the Good Life
The podcast delves into the fundamental questions about the nature of the good life. It illuminates the importance of reflecting on what truly matters and what brings meaning and fulfillment to our lives. Taggart discusses the distinction between sustaining life and living an excellent life, emphasizing the need to prioritize the pursuit of a good life over mere survival or material success. The podcast invites listeners to consider deeper philosophical and existential questions that go beyond the conventional notions of work and success.
Challenging Technological Assumptions
Taggart raises critical questions about the societal impact of technology and the need for deeper philosophical reflections around its implications. He highlights the inherent limitations of technology's vocabulary and its inability to address broader ethical and cultural questions. Taggart calls for a more nuanced understanding of technology's role in the context of human existence and urges leaders in the tech industry to engage in thoughtful and ethical discussions about the impact of their work.
Practical Steps Towards a More Meaningful Life
The podcast offers practical suggestions for cultivating a more meaningful life amidst the demands of work. Taggart proposes activities such as disidentifying from work, introspection, and cultivating diverse interests. By questioning the pervasive influence of work and exploring broader aspects of life, individuals can begin to move away from total work and find greater fulfillment and purpose.
Andrew is a Practical Philosopher who believes that "there may be no greater vexation in our time than the question of how to make a living in a manner that accords with leading a good life." We dive deep into the questions of "what is the good life?" and what he means by "sustaining life." He also shares his perspective on the concept of "Total Work," a phrase first put forth in 1947 by the German Philosopher Josef Pieper, and shares how that phrase became central to his current writing on the topic and conversations he has with business leaders and executives.
We also dive into his dichotomy of the three modes people could think about to make a living:
Use what you've got
Exchange what's in hand
Offer what you can
He reflects on our modern culture's over-reliance on exchanging our time for money while ignoring how we can live off the land and operate within the gift economy. Next, we talk about some of the different modes of living (whether it be a "settler", nomad or somewhere in between) and the implications for the community in society as a whole as well as how has dealt with that with his wife.
Finally, Andrew offers three practical steps people can take to re-engage with life and try to understand what "a life worth living looks like" that does not include the advice to just quit your job.
Dis-identify with the identity of the worker: Questioning whether you truly only are a worker, a CEO, a marketing manager, an accountant, etc...
Begin an inquiry into the question "If I am not a worker, then who am I?": What else is worth living for? What practices do I want to have in part of my life? What relationships and conversations nourish me?
The question whether or not the life you have defined is "sufficient": Are you thinking deeply enough about the question of who you are?