
Where do US-China relations go from here? w/ Jake Werner
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Apr 29, 2025 Jake Werner, a historian of modern China and director at the Quincy Institute, shares insights on the deepening complexities of US-China relations. He discusses the trade war, highlighting why 'decoupling' fails to capture the economic fallout. The conversation turns to military tensions, with a focus on the rising influence of military officials in China and the risks of proxy wars. Werner also explores the historical contexts of liberalism and authoritarianism under Xi Jinping, painting a vivid picture of the geopolitical landscape ahead.
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China's Economic Resilience
- China is better positioned economically to withstand the trade war shocks than the US.
- China can stimulate domestic demand, while US consumers face shortages, inflation, and layoffs.
Erosion of Neoliberal Global Order
- The US-China relationship's neoliberal global order has eroded, driving insecurity and rivalry.
- Trump seeks to dismantle this system, contrasting earlier attempts to rig it for US benefit.
Spheres of Influence Are Unrealistic
- Carving spheres of influence in Asia is unlikely a viable deal with China.
- The US would resist ceding Asian dominance, risking conflict over regional control.
