

The Bureau Podcast: In Jerusalem with Adam Zivo, As IDF Targets the 'Big Boss'
Jun 18, 2025
Adam Zivo, an independent journalist and columnist for the National Post, shares his firsthand experiences from Jerusalem amid the escalating war. Surprisingly calm in Israel, he reveals a public increasingly focused on Iran as the main adversary rather than Gaza. Zivo discusses potential U.S. military involvement and the dramatic shift in Israeli sentiment toward confronting Iran's regime. He provides insights into the complex dynamics of the conflict, the resilience of locals during protests, and the implications of these emerging strategies.
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Iran as The 'Big Boss'
- Israel views Iran as the main adversary behind proxy militias like Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis.
- Recent conflicts are seen as battles against Iran's influence rather than isolated events with Hamas or Hezbollah.
3 A.M. Alert and Calm Defiance
- At 3 a.m., Israelis received a rare emergency alert warning to approach shelters, signaling Iran strike fears.
- Despite the tension, many remained calm, with some continuing daily routines as a form of defiance.
Israeli Views on Gaza vs Iran
- Israelis largely want to end the Gaza war and are divided politically on Netanyahu's motives.
- However, there is broad support for stronger action against Iran, seen as a greater existential threat.