Jon Ronson: Why We Went So Crazy During COVID Lockdowns
Jan 24, 2024
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Jon Ronson, author exploring culture wars, discusses the creation of 'excited delirium' leading to George Floyd's death, law enforcement's impact on investigations, and the director of 'Plandemic' rewriting 'Star Wars'. Also explores negative effects of social media, therapy benefits, Joseph Campbell's Heroes journey, media coverage of a conspiracy plot, reflections on lockdown and anxiety, and the need for a more forgiving society.
The creation of a fake medical condition called 'excited delirium' in 1988 had a direct impact on the death of George Floyd in 2020.
The concept of trauma has expanded beyond its original context of PTSD, leading to its misapplication in various situations and contributing to culture wars.
The COVID-19 lockdowns intensified culture wars by increasing suspicion, polarization, and the emergence of extreme caricatures among individuals.
Deep dives
The Origins of Today's Culture Wars
Author John Ronson discusses how controversies and panics from decades ago have led to today's culture wars. He explores the creation of a fake medical condition called Excited Delirium and its connection to police brutality, as well as the impact of pseudoscience in influential institutions like the CIA. Ronson also delves into the story of Judy Mikovits, a scientist whose controversial findings on chronic fatigue syndrome spiraled into a world of conspiracy theories. The podcast episode highlights the concept creep of trauma and its effects on society, as well as the increasing polarization and extreme caricatures of people during the COVID lockdowns.
The Misuse of Trauma and the Concept Creep of Trauma
The podcast episode investigates how the concept of trauma has expanded beyond its original context of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and into everyday life. It explores instances where the term trauma has been misapplied, such as college students claiming trauma from being forced to read certain books, and the overuse of trauma in discussions surrounding free speech and censorship. It also delves into the bestselling book 'The Body Keeps the Score' on PTSD and complex PTSD, examining the concept creep and the widespread adoption of trauma terminology. The episode suggests that the misuse and overuse of trauma has contributed to the escalating culture wars and the increasing tendency to define oneself in opposition to others.
Lockdown's Impact on the Culture Wars
The podcast episode highlights the impact of the COVID-19 lockdowns on the intensification of culture wars. It explores how isolation, anxiety, and a sense of letdown by institutions led to increased suspicion and polarization among individuals. The episode discusses the tendency to define oneself in opposition to others and the emergence of extreme caricatures. Examples include Jordan Peterson offering advice on self-esteem while also spreading conspiracy theories, and the controversy surrounding the World Economic Forum's concept of the 15-minute city and the great reset. Overall, the episode suggests that the lockdowns played a significant role in magnifying and exacerbating existing cultural tensions.
The Dangers of Excessive Shaming
One of the main insights discussed in this podcast is the negative consequences of excessive shaming in society. The speaker highlights examples such as the case of Justin Sacco, who faced disproportionate shaming for a tweet, and how the refusal to be shamed can result in the shamer slinking away. The episode also explores how public figures like Trump and Ralph Northam have defied shaming attempts. While some may believe that shaming is justified in certain cases, the speaker raises concerns about the potential negative impact of this phenomenon.
The Influence of the Hero's Journey
Another key point discussed in the podcast is the influence of the hero's journey narrative structure, popularized by Joseph Campbell and utilized in movies like Star Wars. The speaker shares how Mickey Willis and others have embraced the concept of the hero's journey as a way to live their lives. While this narrative structure is effective in art, the podcast highlights the complexity of real life, where individuals are neither heroes nor dragons entirely. The speaker argues for a more nuanced understanding of people and the importance of empathy and critical thinking in navigating the modern media landscape.
While some of us went a little nuts during the COVID-19 lockdowns, others—including many of our country's leaders and people in the media—went absolutely batshit crazy, often with disastrous results.
Exactly why that happened is the subject of author Jon Ronson's latest season of Things Fell Apart, a podcast that explores the deep origins of today's culture wars in controversies, panics, and delusions from decades ago.
I talked with Ronson about why he believes the creation of a fake medical condition called "excited delirium" in 1988 ultimately led to the death of George Floyd in 2020, how law enforcement fixations on white supremacy warped the investigation into a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, and how the director of the massively influential Plandemic documentaries was actually rewriting the script of Star Wars.
Ronson is best known as the author of The Men Who Stare at Goats, an account of a U.S. Army unit that tried to perfect paranormal powers like walking through walls, and So You've Been Publicly Shamed, which helped define cancel culture just as it was becoming widespread via social media.
We also talk about Things Fell Apart, how he survived COVID, and how critical thinking and media literacy are more important than ever in a world in which we can all produce and consume our versions of the truth.
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