Mike Birbiglia's Working It Out 146. Jack Antonoff Returns: Working Out the New Theme Song
Sep 30, 2024
Jack Antonoff, an 11-time Grammy winner and celebrated rock star, returns for a lively chat with Mike. They dive into Jack's amazing performances with Taylor Swift and his collaborations with Sabrina Carpenter. The duo discusses the importance of authenticity in live shows and how cynicism has no place in music. Jack shares fond memories from a Taylor concert that highlight the emotional connections formed during performances. Plus, they unveil a fresh theme song, blending humor and creativity in the process!
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Don't Trade Nuance For A Persona
- Avoid selling yourself as purely a 'nice guy' or a 'piece of shit'.
- Jack and Mike recommend nuance over persona-driven branding in art and comedy.
Core Creative Feeling Is Constant
- Songwriting and performing feel the same whether for five people or 50,000 people.
- Jack Antonoff says the soul of the work is unchanged while only the context around it shifts.
Authenticity Trumps Performance Tricks
- Authenticity cuts through performative bits; audiences sense manufactured personas.
- Jack values artists who are 'just are' over those playing a role for the crowd.