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Who is the 38-year-old, Muslim, second-generation immigrant chairman of Reform UK?
Zia Yusuf joins Nick in the Political Thinking studio to tell his story, lay out his party's path to power, and share his thoughts on Boris Johnson, Elon Musk, Suella Braverman and his boss, Nigel Farage.
Producer: Daniel Kraemer
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