The Good, The Bad, and The Unknown of AI with Kevin Roose

May 22, 2025

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What happens when a generation grows up with AI as a daily companion—and the rest of us are still catching up? In this episode, we sit down with New York Times journalist and podcaster Kevin Roose to unpack how artificial intelligence is already transforming the way we work, learn, and connect. From teens using AI to write essays or talk through their emotions, to companies quietly integrating it into operations while navigating public backlash, the changes are happening fast—and not always out in the open.

We explore with Kevin why media outlets remain skeptical, shaped by years of tech industry overpromises, and how employers are weighing the reputational risks of automation against its undeniable advantages. Kevin calls for more honest, transparent leadership as AI reshapes the economy and society in real time.

As we dig into these tensions, we also talk about Kevin’s long-standing fascination with belief systems—whether rooted in religion, finance, or tech—and how journalism helps him trace the deeper human motivations behind them. This is more than a conversation about where AI is going—it’s about who we are becoming as it gets there.

About Kevin Roose

Kevin Roose is an American author and award-winning technology columnist for The New York Times. He is the author of three books, the co-host of the “Hard Fork” podcast, and was included on the 2015 Forbes 30 Under 30 list.

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