The Deficit Myth with Stephanie Kelton — what to ask when governments can't afford to fix things.
Mar 27, 2024
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American economist Stephanie Kelton challenges economic orthodoxy in her book The Deficit Myth, discussing deficits as investments in education and infrastructure. The conversation explores Modern Monetary Theory, inflation risks, historical precedents, and government tools for addressing climate change.
Government budgets differ from personal finances; government can never run out of money.
COVID-19 response exemplifies government's ability to fund initiatives without traditional financial constraints.
Advocates for diverse policy toolkit including fiscal initiatives to address inflation at the root cause.
Deep dives
Challenging the Myth of National Budgets
The podcast challenges the conventional wisdom surrounding national budgets, deficit, and debt. It highlights the misconception of treating government budgets like personal finances, emphasizing that the government, as a currency issuer, can never run out of money. It discusses the importance of focusing on inflation rather than deficits and elucidates the impact of historical precedents on economic policies.
Government Spending during Emergencies
The episode showcases how government responses during emergencies, like the COVID-19 pandemic, elucidate monetary theory concepts. It explains how significant spending was authorized without prior tax increases or borrowing, displaying the government's capacity to fund initiatives and stimulate the economy through newly created money without traditional financial constraints.
Policy Tools and Inflation Management
It delves into the limitations of traditional monetary policies relied upon by central banks, particularly in inflation management. By advocating for a more diverse policy toolkit, including regulatory levers, fiscal initiatives, and antitrust enforcement, the episode emphasizes the importance of addressing inflationary pressures at the root cause.
Role of Federal Job Guarantee
The discussion introduces the concept of a federal job guarantee, illustrating how it could create full employment and contribute to price stability. It elucidates how the job guarantee program could prioritize work benefiting society, the environment, and communities, providing an alternative approach to managing unemployment and inflation.
Integration of Modern Monetary Theory in Policy Framework
The episode evaluates the integration of modern monetary theory (MMT) principles in policy frameworks, advocating for a paradigm shift in economic thinking. It highlights the Biden administration's approach labeled as 'modern supply side economics,' driven by MMT elements like focusing on supply constraints, capacity building, and tackling inflation through comprehensive government interventions.
Addressing Climate Change Through Economic Policy
The podcast explores the intersection of economic policy, particularly MMT, in addressing climate change challenges. It discusses the Biden administration's approach, aligning with MMT principles to mobilize significant funding for climate initiatives. By emphasizing the need for an expanded policy toolkit and pragmatic strategies to combat climate change, it advocates for a holistic economic approach beyond conventional monetary measures.
When governments say they can't afford to fix climate change or lift kids out of poverty are they speaking the truth? American economist Stephanie Kelton challenges economic orthodoxy in her book The Deficit Myth: Modern Monetary Theory and the Birth of the People's Economy. She joins Natasha Mitchell in conversation at this 2024 National Sustainability Festival event.
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