"Sanctions On Israel Are The Only Hope": Israel's Most Distinguished Journalist Gideon Levy
Dec 30, 2023
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Gideon Levy, award-winning Ha'aretz columnist, discusses the degeneration of Israeli society and the atrocities committed against Palestinians. Topics include dehumanization in occupied societies, comparing Hamas to the Nazis, possible outcomes of forced migration, alarming conditions faced by detainees in the West Bank, and prospects for change in Israel and Palestine.
Dehumanization and demonization of Palestinians in Israeli media justify brutal policies against them.
Comparing Hamas to Nazis is a misleading and disrespectful rhetoric that belittles the horrors of the Holocaust.
Deep dives
The Impact of Dehumanization and Demonization
The podcast episode delves into the impact of dehumanization and demonization in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The speaker highlights how the Israeli media portrays Palestinians, creating a perception that they are not human beings and are instead cruel, brutal, and barbaric. This dehumanization serves as a tool to justify the brutal policies implemented against the Palestinians. The speaker raises concerns about the danger of normalizing ideas like transfer and ethnic cleansing, as the Israeli discourse shifts more towards endorsing these ideas. They emphasize the need for the international community to take action, as Israeli public opinion and the Israeli government will not change on their own.
The Role of Language and Rhetoric
The podcast explores the use of language and rhetoric by Israeli leaders and officials. The speaker criticizes the likening of Hamas to Nazis, describing it as a cheap manipulation that belittles the horrors of the Holocaust. They argue that using such rhetoric is a tool to implement brutal policies and gain justification for extreme actions. The speaker emphasizes that Hamas is a fundamentalistic and terrible organization, but comparing them to Nazis is misleading and disrespectful to the memory of the Holocaust. They call for a more honest and nuanced discussion, rather than relying on sensationalized language.
The Conditions of Palestinian Detainees
The podcast episode sheds light on the conditions faced by Palestinian detainees held by Israel. The speaker describes the routine arrests carried out by the Israeli army in Palestinian villages and towns. These arrests often involve kidnapping people from their beds and taking them for interrogation without legal basis. Many detainees are kept in administrative detention with no knowledge of the charges against them. The speaker argues that these detainees are essentially hostages held by Israel. They further highlight the inhumane treatment of detainees, including handcuffing, blindfolding, and brutal conditions in Israeli prisons.
The Outlook for the West Bank
The podcast discusses the situation in the West Bank and the potential future outcomes. The speaker expresses concern about the helplessness of Palestinians living in the West Bank, lacking leadership and protection. They highlight the oppressive military presence and the detrimental impact of settlements. Despite the absence of leadership, the speaker does not foresee a large-scale uprising like the previous intifadas due to the lack of organization. The speaker acknowledges the need for international pressure to bring about change and emphasizes the importance of holding Israel accountable for its actions. They express a pessimistic outlook but note the potential for change through the shifting attitudes of younger generations, particularly in the United States.
Gideon Levy is a man of immense moral courage and leadership: the award-winning Ha'aretz columnist has spoken out against the atrocities committed against the Palestinian people, and has become an increasingly lone voice.
Here he tells me how Israeli society has degenerated to a terrifying degree, why he has so little hope, the forgotten horrors of the West Bank - and why the only chance for a just peace will come from sanctions against Israel.