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Trump has ‘lost control’ of the Epstein conspiracy: David Drucker

Nov 14, 2025
Vaughn Hilliard, a senior White House reporter at MSNBC, joins the conversation about the fallout from the Epstein conspiracy and Trump's dwindling control over it. The discussion reveals that while Trump initially fueled the controversy, he now finds himself struggling with backlash from his own party. They also explore the implications of the Epstein files, which resonate beyond politics and highlight the GOP's internal divisions. Hilliard emphasizes that Trump's current vulnerability makes the reemergence of Epstein particularly detrimental to his influence.
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ANECDOTE

Bobby Kennedy's Hands-On Campaigning

  • Chris Matthews recounts Bobby Kennedy campaigning in Gary, Indiana, riding in an open car with local leaders and connecting with working-class voters.
  • He says Kennedy let people touch him to prove authenticity and win trust.
INSIGHT

Epstein Files Vote Moves Forward

  • House Republicans face a likely vote to compel release of DOJ Epstein case files despite White House pressure.
  • The bill would still require Senate passage and a presidential signature to become law.
INSIGHT

Grassroots Pressure Shapes GOP Breaks

  • Drucker frames GOP defections as rare but driven by grassroots belief in a deep-seated Epstein conspiracy.
  • Republicans are worried about voter backlash after recent election losses and poor approval ratings.
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