✨ DEBRIEF | Ryan & David unpacking the episode: https://www.bankless.com/debrief-the-eric-wall-interview

------ What’s the Endgame for Bitcoin Scaling? That’s what we asked bitcoin builder and researcher Eric Wall.

We start by exploring the evolution of Bitcoin and the genesis of scaling solutions on top of it. We then get into the intricacies of the BitVM, what exactly is a Bitcoin L2 and what’s coming next.

Eric is the perfect guest to explore this frontier of Bitcoin Rollups, he tells it like it is and he understands both Ethereum and Bitcoin.

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------ TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro 5:47 Eric Wall 9:48 The Evolution of Bitcoin 21:31 The Genesis of Bitcoin L2s 36:40 Runes 46:22 BitVM 1:04:45 Why Bitcoin L2s are Inevitable 1:09:07 Stacks 1:11:37 Bitcoin L2 Endgame 1:17:39 Scams 1:23:13 Bitcoin’s Direction 1:27:25 Closing & Disclaimers

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Eric Wall https://twitter.com/ercwl

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