

Agent Pale Horse: Exposing the Truth by Living a Lie
May 5, 2025
Scott Payne, a former FBI Special Agent, takes listeners inside his harrowing life undercover, infiltrating dangerous gangs and neo-Nazi networks for 28 years. He shares chilling insights about the ideologies and recruitment tactics of extremist groups, detailing a gripping face-to-face meeting with a notorious organization. Scott also discusses the psychological toll of living a double life and the moral dilemmas he faced. His captivating anecdotes reveal the intense world of undercover work and the stark realities of domestic extremism.
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Undercover in The Base
- FBI Agent Scott Payne successfully infiltrated The Base, an international neo-Nazi group, by passing a phone interview and an in-person vetting in Georgia.
- He was given a black balaclava and the group's symbol patch, officially becoming a member undercover.
Unexpected Encounter with Fugitive
- Scott unexpectedly met Patrick Matthews, a Canadian Armed Forces reservist and neo-Nazi fugitive, during a Base training camp in Georgia.
- Despite ongoing manhunts, Scott welcomed Matthews into the group, continuing to build the case against him.
Charges Beyond Ideology
- Members of The Base were charged not for ideology but for criminal acts like conspiracy to murder and firearms offenses.
- The group's evidence was so strong that all members pled guilty, underscoring the tangible threat from extremist groups.