We’re back again with another podcast with views from (and disagreements within) the center about Elon Musk, who has been the prime mover behind a lot of the news this week— efforts to cull the federal workforce, the (illegal?) pause on grants foreign and domestic, and the apparent shutdown of USAID. Plus: Trump’s sudden announcement (and sudden pause) of big tariffs on Mexico and Canada; venting about the DNC Chair election and about Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s apparent glide path to overseeing our health policy apparatus, and we talk about the DCA plane crash — and the apparently irresistible urge the president feels to speculate about why it happened.

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