The Megyn Kelly Show Fact-Checking the New York Times' "Daily" Podcast's Disinformation-Filled Russiagate Episode, with Michael Shellenberger and Aaron Mate
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Aug 15, 2025 
Independent journalist Aaron Mate, known for his deep dives into the Trump-Russia saga, joins Michael Shellenberger, founder of the Public News Substack, in a revealing discussion. They tackle the disinformation spread by a prominent media outlet regarding Russiagate, challenging the emotional investment of certain journalists. The conversation critiques the lack of evidence behind key claims against former President Obama and scrutinizes the controversial Steele dossier. Together, they advocate for integrity in journalism and expose the manipulation inherent in the narrative.
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Times' Role In Russiagate Narrative
- Megyn Kelly argues Michael Schmidt and The New York Times continued to mislead audiences about Russiagate despite being implicated in leak controversies.
- She contends their reporting contributed to a major media scandal by amplifying flimsy intelligence to smear Trump.
Cherry-Picked Intelligence Undermines ICA
- Aaron Mate says the January 2017 intelligence assessment cherry-picked fragments and ignored contradictory intelligence.
- He cites the House intelligence report showing key claims rested on a vague sentence from secondhand sources.
Why The House Report Matters More
- Michael Schellenberger and Aaron Mate say the House (HIPCIE) report exposes withheld and ignored intelligence the Obama CIA cherry-picked.
- They argue the House report is more credible than the Senate report, which missed key facts.