Professor Clive Hamilton (public ethicist; climate activist; founder of the Australia Institute) has led the emissions reduction conversation for decades. But he - controversially - has recently switched tack, arguing that climate mitigation is now impossible. And irresponsible. And that we must instead put our efforts (and last resources) into trying to survive as best we can.

In this chat the professor of public ethics at Charles Sturt University in Canberra, recently named a 'living legend' among Australian scholars, talks through the research published in his latest book Living Hot: Surviving and Thriving on a Heating Planet. We cover why Saul Griffith’s “electrify everything” campaign is flawed, the safest place to live and what we should now be fighting for, and we discuss the contentious issue of class and the dangerous role of private schools (strange but true) to our survival.

Clive’s previous Zeitgeist-shifting books include Requiem for a Species, Growth Fetish and Affluenza.

SHOW NOTES

You can get hold of Living Hot and The Privileged Few

You can read my Book Serialisation on Substack here. Here are the first two chapters, free to everyone.

You can listen to my Wild conversation with Saul Griffiths here.

My wonderful chat with Olivia Lazard on mineral depletion is a great backgrounder, too.

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