
Pod Save America Empire State of Mind
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Jan 6, 2026 Senator Mark Kelly, a former astronaut and U.S. Senator from Arizona, joins to discuss a political firestorm surrounding Secretary Hegseth's censure against him. He emphasizes the importance of service members standing against illegal orders. The conversation also covers the legality of military actions, especially regarding recent U.S. involvement in Venezuela, and the need for congressional approval for such decisions. Kelly critiques the implications of these actions on global order and advocates for a more restrained approach to military intervention.
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Oil Motivates The Venezuela Operation
- The Trump administration framed the Venezuela raid as law enforcement while openly seeking oil access.
- Hosts argue the operation is imperialist, driven by resource capture rather than democracy promotion.
Regime Change For Profit And Influence
- Hosts highlight that Trump and advisers openly prioritized Venezuelan oil over democratic outcomes.
- They warn regime change was chosen for crony profit and geopolitical leverage, not human rights.
Don Roe Doctrine: Hemisphere Ambitions
- Trump publicly mused about toppling regimes across the hemisphere, naming Colombia, Mexico, Cuba, and Greenland.
- Hosts see this as a disturbing expansion of imperial rhetoric with real diplomatic consequences.













