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The notion of renewal transcends the arbitrary calendar dates of December 31st and January 1st, emphasizing that every day presents an opportunity for self-improvement and growth. The speaker reflects on the importance of not falling into the trap of monotony, where each day feels the same, and urges the listener to actively engage with the world around them. Writing is highlighted as a unique endeavor that enables individuals to understand not only the world but also themselves, fostering personal discovery through the act of creation. This idea sets the stage for a broader discussion on how writers influence and challenge societal perceptions through their narratives.
Amitava Kumar, the guest on the show, recently completed a trilogy of books, further enriching his literary portfolio that includes The Blue Book and The Yellow Book. This conversation delves into the artistic process behind his work, characterized by a blend of drawings, notes, and observations, all reflecting a deep engagement with both personal and universal themes. Their dialogue meanders through the significance of storytelling, the use of imagery in writing, and how creative expression offers both the writer and the reader a way to navigate complex emotions. The discussion highlights the joy and satisfaction derived from the creative process itself, rather than the pressures of commercial success.
The conversation addresses the persistent cycle of poverty in India and poses challenging questions about the role individuals can play in driving change. Traditional concerns regarding structural issues are considered, emphasizing the immediate actions individuals can take to uplift those trapped in the financial system. An innovative platform, Rangdeh, is presented as a potential solution, enabling social investors to lend to rural entrepreneurs at affordable rates, ultimately working to alleviate the burdens of predatory loans. This exchange reflects a broader conversation about personal responsibility and the power of grassroots initiatives in creating social impact.
The discussion highlights the complexities of national identity and the narratives that shape it. Kumar shares an anecdote about how he has engaged in conversations with travelers on a train journey across India, with discussions often revealing deep-seated attitudes towards identity and culture. The narratives exchanged reveal a microcosm of society, showcasing the diverse range of beliefs and sentiments held by individuals. This exploration signifies how storytelling serves as a critical vehicle for understanding the multifaceted nature of Indian identity, transcending mere facts to reveal the emotional landscape of the people.
The theme of mortality emerges as a poignant aspect of creative exploration, particularly in relation to the aging process and the reflections it inspires. Kumar shares personal experiences related to loss, including the passing of his father, which have influenced his perspective on life and creativity. This confrontation with mortality urges both the artist and the audience to grapple with their own relationships to time, existence, and the legacy they wish to leave behind. In turn, this thematic exploration encourages a deeper engagement with the world, underscoring the urgency of artistic expression in the face of life's transience.
The dialogue delves into the influence and intricacies of language in shaping cultural identity, particularly in the context of bilingualism. Kumar reflects on the challenges and nuances of expressing thoughts and emotions in different languages, acknowledging the unique capacities that each language offers in conveying complex feelings. The conversation raises essential questions about self-expression and the pressures to conform to societal expectations within different linguistic frameworks. This exploration invites the audience to consider how language functions not just as a means of communication but as an intrinsic part of cultural identity and personal experience.
Amitava Kumar emphasizes the role of artists in navigating and responding to political landscapes, advocating for a form of storytelling that captures complexity. The conversation critiques the tendency for artists to be pressured into simplistic narratives, discussing how true artistic expression often lies in grappling with the messiness of real life. Kumar insists that the artist's responsibility extends beyond mere representation, as they hold the power to reveal deeper truths through nuanced storytelling. This perspective encourages a reflection on the ethical obligations of artists as they confront societal issues and their portrayal in their work.
The importance of curiosity as a moral and personal imperative is highlighted throughout the conversation, asserting that it is vital for personal growth and social engagement. The discussion references how nurturing curiosity enables individuals to forge deeper connections with others and the world around them. Kumar reflects on personal experiences that fostered curiosity, showcasing how exploration and wonder lead to richer interactions and a more profound understanding of humanity. This emphasis on curiosity represents a call to action for both artists and listeners to remain inquisitive in their pursuits, pushing boundaries and expanding their perspectives.
Kumar contemplates the legacy of his work, reflecting on how experiences shape artistic expression and the relationship between artist and society. The conversation speaks to the larger themes of continuity and change within creative pursuits, as Kumar considers how his writing will resonate with future generations. This introspection acknowledges both the challenges and triumphs that artists face in their pursuit of meaning and connection through their craft. Ultimately, this reflection reinforces the enduring impact that art has on shaping collective consciousness, inviting artists to consider their place in history and the stories they choose to tell.
His earlier episodes on this show have been huge hits, and as he completes a trilogy of books, he returns to complete a trilogy of episodes. Amitava Kumar joins Amit Varma in episode 408 of The Seen and the Unseen to talk about writing, noticing, painting, travelling, trees, and unfulfilled train journeys. (FOR FULL LINKED SHOW NOTES, GO TO SEENUNSEEN.IN.) Also check out 1. Amitava Kumar on Instagram, Substack, Twitter, Amazon, Vassar, Granta and his own website. 2. The Green Book: An Observer's Notebook -- Amitava Kumar. 3. Amitava Kumar Finds the Breath of Life — Episode 265 of The Seen and the Unseen. 4. Amitava Kumar Finds His Kashmiri Rain -- Episode 364 of The Seen and the Unseen. 5. The Blue Book: A Writer’s Journal — Amitava Kumar. 6. The Yellow Book: A Traveller’s Diary — Amitava Kumar. 7. My Beloved Life: A Novel -- Amitava Kumar. 8. A Million Mutinies Now -- VS Naipaul. 9. The Trees — Philip Larkin. 10. Before the Storm -- Amitava Kumar. 11. Wanderers, Kings, Merchants: The Story of India through Its Languages — Peggy Mohan. 12. Understanding India Through Its Languages — Episode 232 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Peggy Mohan). 13. A Suitable Boy -- Vikram Seth. 14. Caste, Capitalism and Chandra Bhan Prasad — Episode 296 of The Seen and the Unseen. 15. ‘Indian languages carry the legacy of caste’ — Chandra Bhan Prasad interviewed by Sheela Bhatt. 16. The Refreshing Audacity of Vinay Singhal — Episode 291 of The Seen and the Unseen. 17. Stage.in. 18. Laapataa Ladies -- Kiran Rao. 19. Kanthapura -- Raja Rao. 20. All About H Hatterr -- GV Desani. 21. From Phansi Yard: My Year with the Women of Yerawada -- Sudha Bharadwaj. 22. India is Broken -- Ashoka Mody. 23. Being Mortal -- Atul Gawande. 24. Earwitness to Place -- Bernie Krause interviewed by Erin Robinsong. 25. All That Breathes -- Shaunak Sen. 26. Frog: 1 Poetry: 0 -- Amitava Kumar. 27. The Heat Will Kill You First -- Jeff Goodell. 28. Danish Husain and the Multiverse of Culture — Episode 359 of The Seen and the Unseen. 29. The Artist's Way -- Julia Cameron. 30. An excerpt from Wittgenstein’s diary — Parul Sehgal on Twitter. 31. Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus — Ludwig Wittgenstein. 32. Burdock -- Janet Malcolm. 33. Hermit in Paris — Italo Calvino. 34. Objects From Our Past -- Episode 77 of Everything is Everything. 35. The Wisden Book of Test Cricket (1877-1977) — Compiled & edited by Bill Frindall. 36. Gita Press and the Making of Hindu India — Akshaya Mukul. 37. The Gita Press and Hindu Nationalism — Episode 139 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Akshaya Mukul). 38. The Ferment of Our Founders — Episode 272 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Shruti Kapila). 39. Private Truths, Public Lies — Timur Kuran. 40. The Incredible Insights of Timur Kuran — Episode 349 of The Seen and the Unseen. 41. Bhavni Bhavai -- Ketan Mehta. 42. All We Imagine as Light -- Payal Kapadia. 43. Secondhand Time -- Svetlana Alexievich. 44. Amitava Kumar's post with Danish Husain's postcard. 45. Fire Weather -- John Vaillant. 46. Ill Nature -- Joy Williams. 47. Hawk -- Joy Williams. This episode is sponsored by Rang De, a platform that enables individuals to invest in farmers, rural entrepreneurs and artisans. Amit Varma and Ajay Shah have launched a new course called Life Lessons, which aims to be a launchpad towards learning essential life skills all of you need. For more details, and to sign up, click here. Amit and Ajay also bring out a weekly YouTube show, Everything is Everything. Have you watched it yet? You must! And have you read Amit’s newsletter? Subscribe right away to The India Uncut Newsletter! It’s free! Also check out Amit’s online course, The Art of Clear Writing. Episode art: ‘Gulmohar’ by Simahina.
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