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Simon Schama on Pandemics and the Health of Nations, Part Two
Oct 22, 2023
In a thought-provoking discussion, bestselling author and historian Simon Schama delves into the complex history of pandemics, particularly focusing on cholera in 19th century India and the innovative pioneers behind vaccination efforts. He examines the emotional challenges of public health campaigns and the dynamics of colonial medicine. Schama also reflects on lessons from history regarding misinformation and vaccine denial, emphasizing how understanding our past can guide us in addressing contemporary health crises. Host Kavita Puri adds depth with her insights.
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- False accusations and misinformation can tarnish the reputation of scientists and hinder progress in disease prevention and control.
- Combating denial and promoting evidence-based practices requires ongoing efforts in persuasion, education, and clear communication.
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The journey of Valdermaa Hafkeen: From Odessa to India
Valdermaa Hafkeen, a Jew from Odessa, developed a viable cholera vaccine in the late 19th century, which he tested on himself and others. He then traveled to India to conduct comparative trials and establish an institute to fight cholera and the bubonic plague. Despite his successes, Hafkeen's career was marred by false accusations of causing tetanus deaths due to a contaminated batch of vaccine. He was eventually vindicated, but his reputation suffered, and he spent the rest of his life in relative obscurity.
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