
The Joe Rogan Experience #2444 - Andrew Wilson
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Jan 28, 2026 Andrew Wilson, debate host and founder of The Crucible and Debate University, known for thousands of online debates. They riff on conspiracies and Art Bell nostalgia. Topics include Bigfoot and Missing 411, strange animals and evolution, particle colliders and abandoned SSC, protest policing and SIG P320 concerns, immigration and radicalization online, religion’s role in community, and debating tactics.
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Career Pivot During COVID
- Andrew Wilson transitioned from robotics and gunsmithing to debating during COVID after being laid off and engaging online.
- He turned debating into a career by focusing full-time and building an audience through clips and live debates.
Protests As A Calculated Escalation
- Sustained, unattended protests increase the chance of escalatory incidents against federal officers.
- Wilson calls this a deliberate 'mathematical formula' used to provoke confrontations and justify further action.
Security Work Shaped 'Us vs Them' Mindset
- Joe Rogan recounts working security at Great Woods and the 'us versus them' mindset that develops on the job.
- He describes bonfires, fights, and the instinct to exit dangerous situations rather than escalate for low pay.




