The Ezra Klein Show

Best Of: Salman Rushdie Is Not Who You Think He Is

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Jun 6, 2025
In this thought-provoking conversation, Salman Rushdie, acclaimed author of "The Satanic Verses," discusses the harrowing experience of losing control over his identity following the fatwa on his life. He shares insights into the psychological impact of his 2022 knife attack and how it forced a reckoning with his 'shadow self.' Rushdie reflects on public perception versus personal integrity, the complexities of artistic expression, and the influence of social media on identity. He also recommends timeless literary masterpieces that shaped his understanding of narrative and self.
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The Shadow Self Concept

  • Salman Rushdie described how a 'shadow self' can become more real than the original person.
  • This detachment can lead people to believe the shadow over the true self, influencing identity and perception.
ANECDOTE

Rushdie's Life Changed by Fatwa

  • Salman Rushdie published "The Satanic Verses" and became a literary star before the Iranian fatwa forced him into hiding.
  • Rushdie's life was upended by threats to his life because of his novel, showing the extreme consequences of controversial art.
ANECDOTE

Writing "The Satanic Verses" Plot

  • Rushdie wrote "The Satanic Verses" about migration and identity in 1980s London.
  • He used fiction to explore religious belief, imagining disputed religious verses, which led to unforeseen backlash.
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