sociologist and political economist Will Davies. We spoke about his recent article in the London Review of Books, titled 'A Crisis in Credibility: Labour’s Conundrum'. We discussed the nature of the economic agenda that Labour has adopted in its attempt to break out of the low-growth and low productivity rates that have characterised the UK economy in recent years. We chatted about the extent to which the Starmer-Reeves project emulates and diverges from the Biden administration's economic policies, and the left de-risking critique of so-called 'modern supply side economics'.