
End-of-Life University Ep. 497 Integrating Doulas and Chaplains in End-of-Life Care with Jane Whitlock and Liza Neal
Learn how doulas and chaplains collaborate to provide end-of-life care in a skilled nursing facility.

My guests for this episode are Jane Whitlock and Liza Neal who both work with the Full Circle Care Program in a skilled nursing facility to support residents and their loved ones during end-of-life journeys. Jane is an end-of-life doula who also helped found the Minnesota Death Collaborative and co-founded Full Circle Care. Liza is a chaplain who has worked to develop spiritual community within and outside faith and multi-faith contexts. She joined the skilled nursing facility in order to be part of the Full Circle Care Program, which we discuss in this interview.
This episode includes:
- How the Full Circle Care Program came about
- The goals for the program and what it consists of
- The roles of doulas and chaplains and how they work together
- How they support and educate patients, families and staff around grief and end-of-life choices
- The community that develops within a residential facility and approaching the experience of grief for everyone in the facility
- The importance of teaching families and staff how to say goodbye to a dying person
- How this program helps fills the gaps left by today’s “modern” hospice care
- Obstacles that have occurred in creating this program
- Tips for other skilled nursing facilities that might want to start a similar program
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