SuperFeast Podcast #165 How to Integrate Psychedelics with Tobias Penno
There are all sorts of reasons people seek out a psychedelic experience.
For some, psychedelic-assisted therapy helps treat depression, some seek a deeply embodied therapeutic experience to traverse major trauma or grief, and some seek a little magic-an escape from the mundane of the day-to-day 9-5 grind.
Whatever it may be, the depth of research and data proving the benefits of a well-integrated embodied psychedelic experience- is making the vision of psychedelic-assisted therapy becoming a recognised/available integrated form of healthcare a realistic vision for the near future.
Today Mason chats with Tobias Penno, A government-funded psychedelic researcher and founder of ‘Psychedelic Healthcare’- a therapeutic service specialising in psychedelic integration work in Australia.
Tobias talks about the benefits of psychedelic-assisted therapy and its capacity to open up the mind/body interface for deep therapeutic work and mystical experiences that can evolve consciousness.
As with all journeys that crack open the psyche- The process of integration after any psychedelic experience (assisted or not) is an essential part of the journey.
Tobias explains what integration after a psychedelic experience looks like when done well, the holistic self-work it takes to integrate meaningfully and embody the changes in your life, and how we can benefit from this type of therapy both on an individual and societal level.
Mason and Tobias discuss the intersection of the Taoist herbs and a well-integrated psychedelic/plant medicine experience And how these majestic herbs and plant medicines can assist us on the journey towards becoming an evolved elder that embodies health and love in mind, body, spirit.
"People come to psychedelics looking for this silver bullet, thinking it's going to suddenly change their life. I think it's important to slow that right down because they're not a silver bullet. They're not right for everyone. There are some people who probably don't need psychedelics- they're already so open, so connected already. They kind of already have an inner psychedelic state, either through other practices or just by nature of their personality. And for them, throwing psychedelics in the mix is probably just adding more chaos than they really need".
- Tobias Penno
Tobias and Mason discuss:
-Ayahuasca.
-Somatic work.
-What is a Dieta?
-Psychedelic integration.
-Psychedelic healthcare.
-Holotropic breath work.
-Plant medicine journeys.
-Psychedelic integration groups.
-Relational dose psychedelic therapy.
-Why psychedelics aren't for everyone.
-Somatic mapping and psychotherapy.
-Deeper psychotherapeutic types of work.
-High-quality preparation before a psychedelic experience.
-Psychedelics are great prep for good deep therapeutic work.
-Personal and collective integration of a plant medicine journey.
-What happens when there is no integration after psychedelics?
Who Tobias Penno?
Tobias Penno is a government-funded psychedelic researcher at the University of Western Australia (U.W.A.). His first academic publication titled 'How Ayahuasca Offers Psychosocial Wellbeing' won the social work research prize in the school of Medicine, Dentistry, and Health Science at U.W.A. in 2017. Tobias is the current chair of the Australian Psychedelic Society (WA Chapter) and his current doctoral research is titled 'Interpersonal Neurobiology in Psychedelic Healing’. Tobias is also the founder of ‘Psychedelic Healthcare’, a therapeutic service specialising in psychedelic integration work in Australia. One day he hopes to provide psychedelic-assisted therapy within an integrated model of emotional healthcare practices.
Resource guide
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Australian Psychedelic Society
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Relevant Podcasts:
Love, Sex and Psychedelics with Dr. Molly Maloof (EP#137)
Psychedelic Journeywork and Fungi Academy with Jasper Degenaars (EP#120)
Psychedelic Assisted Therapies and Mental Health with Tania De Jong (EP#124)
Check Out The Transcript Here:
https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/articles/psychedelics-with-tobias-penno-ep-165