Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar 11/19/25: Trump Meets MBS, MTG Calls Trump Traitor, Epstein Pursued Rothschild Bank, Obama Official Laments Holocaust Education
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Nov 19, 2025 In an explosive discussion, hosts dive into Trump's meeting with MBS and the implications of Saudi Arabia becoming a major non-NATO ally. They examine the fallout from Trump's comments on Jamal Khashoggi and explore the ties between Epstein and the Rothschild bank. There’s a viral clip featuring Sarah Hurwitz critiquing Holocaust education's effects, sparking a debate on the role of social media in shaping perceptions of Israel. The episode also highlights the ongoing frustrations of elite information control in the digital age.
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MBS Gains U.S. Legitimacy
- Mohammed bin Salman's White House visit included a major non-NATO ally designation and a strategic defense agreement.
- Ryan Grim and Emily Jashinsky argue the visit publicly rehabilitated MBS despite Khashoggi's murder allegations.
Trump Downplays Khashoggi Killing
- Trump dismissed questions about Jamal Khashoggi and praised MBS's human rights record.
- Grim and Jashinsky view that as humiliating for U.S. credibility and a denial of established intelligence findings.
Insiders Knew During Khashoggi Disappearance
- Ryan recounts Bob Woodward's 2020 interview where Trump claimed he "saved" MBS regarding Khashoggi scrutiny.
- Grim describes contacting Jared Kushner during Khashoggi's disappearance, showing insider awareness in real time.