

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 86 — Trump v. Musk, Battle of the Bill(ionaires)
Jun 6, 2025
A dramatic rift unfolds between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, with their powerful alliance teetering on the brink. The discussion dives into the intricate dynamics of political engagement and coalition-building, sprinkled with humor and real-world implications. Topics like student loan relief and the role of gold in today’s economy receive attention, while the challenges of third-party politics and the influence of social media fuel the debate. The hosts ponder potential reconciliation between the two billionaires amidst a shifting political landscape.
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Coalition Politics Inevitability
- The Trump-Elon political fallout is a classic case of coalition politics with inevitable leadership clashes.
- Such divisions often occur after victories and reshape rather than end movements.
Challenges of New Party Creation
- Creating a new political party in America is structurally hard but could shake one election cycle.
- Elon Musk's idea to form a centrist party could damage Republicans more than Democrats.
Bobby Kennedy's Coalition Role
- Jack Posobiec described Bobby Kennedy's influence in uniting the MAGA coalition around health and suburban women.
- This coalition bolstered Trump's support in swing states and the Rust Belt.