the Way of the Showman 90 - Freedom to Make Choices - Ivar Hacksher, Jay Gilligan & Frodo - pt 1 of 2
In this episode Jay Gilligan and I talk to the wonderful teacher and artist Ivar Hacksher in his house. We talk about many things, but the underlying flavour is about making choices in art and life.
some of the things we talk about:
- the importance of not knowing.
-making things and ideas concrete too soon.
-Olle and Sarah from the stockholm gallery "Den Fantastiska platsen" ( the fantastic place) have as their business statement that the company is about having fun.
-Where is the space for saying I don't know these days?
-Ivar was part of starting a school which did not have a plan of what the students would learn ahead of time. But instead they promised the swedish state that they would submit a report after the fact telling them what they had done. The state accepted this.
-Paris 1920'2 people, artists meet to see what happend.
- Patrons invested in arist. THis helped them take bold choices.
-Feeling safe in the world is ofen a question of money.
- Getting gigs to pay for cake.
- American psyche vs scandinavian in regards to feeling like someone will have your back if it all fails.
-On immidiate opions to then be able to move on without much emotional connection.
There is no time for I dont know. We push "like" or "heart" then scroll on leaving that thing behind us in a feed and could not get back to it if we tried.
-We no longer sit with experiences to find out what we feel, and think about it.
-the NON cultrure of social media. Avoiding finding out what you feel.
- artistic research. Not needing to always have results. Exploration for it's own sake.
-some artistic work is important to have gone through, but does not produce any interesting work.
-arti schools used to be places to create work. Universities was for exploration and research.
- Rudolf Steiner and the importance of a philosophical foundation, or well thought out base to create work from.
-the story of the woman who didn't have any ideas, who couldn't make a choice.
-learning to make choices
-know what to pay attention to and what not
clean art. keeping to your specific task and explore within that and not dilluting it by adding stuff.
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