In this episode, Rob Ocel is joined by Rick Conrades, Engineering Manager at This Dot Labs, to discuss software development and engineering management! They discuss how to identify and mitigate risks, how to make difficult technology tradeoffs, and how to "manage up"! Finally, they share tips for all software engineers about relating to engineering managers, and the surprising challenges that engineering managers face with their teams. GuestRick Conrades, Engineering Manager at This Dot Labs HostRob Ocel, Software Architect and Engineering Lead at This Dot Labs Sponsored by This Dot Labs