Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov

How To Defeat MAGA in Deep Red States

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Sep 12, 2025
Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan, co-hosts of the I've Had It podcast, share their journey as progressive women in deeply conservative Oklahoma. They discuss the power of ridicule against authoritarianism and the need for a larger Democratic ‘tent’. The duo shares their thoughts on Trump’s backlash, the fallout from Epstein’s story, and urges Democrats to engage younger voices to confront MAGA policies affecting education and women’s rights. Their candid perspectives shed light on the changing political landscape in red states.
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INSIGHT

Epstein Files Confirm Longstanding Rumors

  • Guests reacted to the Epstein 'birthday book' by saying the revelations were disgusting but unsurprising given longstanding rumors.
  • Angie Sullivan emphasized DOJ failures and that many knew about Trump's behavior long before his presidency.
INSIGHT

Optics And Outsized Foreign Influence

  • Welch connects Trump's optics-driven behavior and foreign policy failures to weakened American leadership globally.
  • She frames Trump as being 'dog walked' by foreign strongmen like Netanyahu and Putin.
ADVICE

Use Credible Local Messengers

  • Democrats should recruit credible messengers who reflect local voters and values to win in middle America.
  • Jennifer Welch recommends centrist and progressive coalitions and clearer messaging about MAGA priorities.
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