The Talk Show With John Gruber 436: ‘Financial Boner’, With Tyler Hayes
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Nov 30, 2025 Tyler Hayes, a savvy technology writer and newsletter author, dives into the world of small phones and foldables. He makes a case for the Motorola Razr, arguing it's a beacon for pocketable devices. Together with John, they debate the usability of the Razr's front screen and reflect on Apple's decision to discontinue the mini. The pair also discusses the evolving landscape of Apple TV, highlighting its growing catalog and new sonic logo, all while providing holiday gadget recommendations like compact chargers and smart home accessories.
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Try A Flip Foldable For A Smaller Phone
- Try a flip-style foldable like the Motorola Razr if you want a genuinely pocketable, smaller phone experience.
- Use the front cover screen for glanceable tasks and short replies instead of opening the phone every time.
Gruber Confesses Limited Flip Phone Use
- John admits he hadn't used many vertical flip Android phones before criticizing their front-screen usability.
- He concedes the front screens are glanceable like an Apple Watch, but doubts heavy typing on them.
Folding Could Restore Small Phones
- Flip-style foldables may be the practical path back to smaller pocketable phones as full all-screen devices keep growing.
- Apple or others could deliver a small device by folding a standard phone in half rather than shrinking slab designs.