The Daily Beast Podcast

Trump Plotted Secret White House Teardown: Wolff

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Oct 29, 2025
Michael Wolff, a bestselling author and commentator known for his incisive reporting on the Trump White House, dives deep into Trump's audacious proposal to demolish the East Wing for a grand ballroom. He shares insights into Trump's obsession with control and speculates on the influence of former adviser Steve Bannon's provocative third-term schemes. Wolff also examines the dynamics of favoritism in the White House and reflects on Melania's conspicuous absence during a pivotal trip, revealing how personal and political ambitions intertwine.
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Trump's Ballroom As Real Estate Power Play

  • Michael Wolff reveals Trump pushed to demolish the East Wing and build a grand "Trump Ballroom" as an assertion of personal branding over institutional norms.
  • Wolff links this plan to Trump's developer instinct to create irreversible facts on the ground to bypass political obstacles.
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Bannon's Third-Term Theatrics Have Influence

  • Wolff explains Steve Bannon publicizing a "third term" plan as attention-seeking theater rather than a constitutional strategy.
  • He warns media amplification can make absurd ideas feel plausible within Trump's ecosystem.
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Trips Expose Trump's Isolation, Lack Of Introspection

  • Wolff notes Trump's travel discomfort and emotional isolation on foreign trips, with Melania conspicuously absent in Japan.
  • He suggests Trump rarely shows introspection, even when faced with reminders of assassination or mortality.
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