Joe Biden’s more than 50-year political career will come to an end Monday when he turns over the Oval Office back to Donald Trump. USA TODAY’s Washington Bureau Chief Susan Page had the rare opportunity to do an exit interview with Biden during the last days of his presidency. She joins CNN Washington Bureau Chief and Political Director David Chalian to share her insights from that conversation, including an “extraordinary” admission by the president. Plus, why Biden’s farewell address wasn’t what either of them expected.

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