Kathy Barnette and Tim Young, delve into their experiences in the world of politics. They express their disillusionment with the political landscape, highlighting the prevalence of what they perceive as mediocrity among politicians and the political establishment. Both emphasize their commitment to independent media and grassroots efforts, expressing a desire for genuine change and a focus on effective strategies over traditional political pageantry. The episode provides a thought-provoking insight into their perspectives on the political environment and their approach to effecting meaningful change.

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