In this episode Toby sits down with breath work coach Lukis Mac! THey chat about growing up an emotional overweight kid, losing his father early, dropping out of school to tattoo, tattooing for 15 years, trauma and somatic therapy, the breathwork journey, Wim Hof, silent isolated retreats, veganism and his body breaking down, rapping, shows in NZ, believing in yourself through the darkness, not giving time to negative comments, his mom, tattoos and plans for the future.

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