

Glenn Packiam on Overcoming Division in Your Church, the Invitation in Vocational Uncertainty & the Resilient Pastor
Glenn Packiam—pastor, author, and president of Denver Seminary—joins Jason to reflect on his journey through moral failure in leadership, traumatic loss, and the emotional toll of ministry. They unpack the story behind his latest book, The Resilient Pastor, and explore what it means to lead with integrity in a rapidly shifting culture.
Together, they discuss how to process pain as pastors, reimagine credibility in leadership, and stay rooted in calling amidst uncertainty. Glenn also shares insights from Barna’s research and how church leaders can navigate the emotional and cultural challenges of our moment with courage and hope.
Key Takeaways:
Why credibility is never the goal—but a byproduct of Christlike leadership
Processing collective grief, betrayal, and trauma in ministry
Reclaiming vocation and spiritual formation in pastoral life
The generational wrestle with rootedness and resilience
A hopeful vision for a collaborative, global, historic Church
We hope this conversation strengthens your resolve and reminds you that you’re not alone in the calling.
Biography
Glenn Packiam (Doctor of Theology and Ministry, Durham University) is associate senior pastor at New Life Church in Colorado Springs, and lead pastor of one of its eight congregations, New Life Downtown. A Senior Fellow at Barna Group, a visiting fellow at St. John’s College at Durham University, and an adjunct professor at Denver Seminary, Glenn is the author of several books, including The Resilient Pastor, Blessed Broken Given, and Worship and the World to Come.
He is also an ordained priest with the Anglican Church of North America, speaks regularly at conferences, and has appeared on numerous podcasts and radio shows. Glenn and his wife, Holly, live in the shadow of the Rocky Mountains with their four children.
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Guest Notes
- The Resilient Pastor - Glenn Packiam's book
- New Life Church
- Glenn’s Website
- Soul Sanctuary Church Story
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