The Smerconish Podcast NATO, Trump, and a Fracturing West—What Comes Next?
Jan 23, 2026
James Stavridis, retired four-star admiral and former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, now a Carlyle partner and ex-dean of the Fletcher School. He discusses NATO’s resilience amid political strains. He explains why Greenland and the Arctic are rising strategic flashpoints as ice melts. He maps China and Russia’s Arctic interests and recounts a memorable Buckingham Palace moment involving President Obama.
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Buckingham Palace Martini Moment
- James Stavridis recounts a receiving-line moment at Buckingham Palace with President Obama and Queen Elizabeth.
- The Queen laughed after Obama joked he would "kill someone for a martini," prompting a timely martini delivery.
Why NATO Is Likely To Endure
- James Stavridis argues NATO will survive current tensions because it is popular and strategically sensible.
- He cites strong public approval, large combined economies, and geographic complementarity between North America and Europe.
Canada's Strategic Options Expand
- Canada may pivot closer to Europe amid U.S.-Europe friction, seeking alternate partnerships.
- Stavridis highlights Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's (note: host misstated 'Mark Carney') global economic credentials and Beijing visit as evidence of options.